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Post by Terri (Twin 2) on Mar 20, 2013 18:40:05 GMT -5
First, congrats Aidan, Jennifer and Leah.
You are in the place that I wanted to be... good job.
Aidan...I don't think your game was very good, but I need to make some considerations. First, you were our first target at the beginning of the merge and when you realized it you worked with the fans. You made us change our vote for a moment, and got yourself out of our votes. I think you had a big domain under Leah and Jennifer Tilly. You betrayed on Jennifer Tilly and she didn't make you pay back. Well, that's certainly a good social game. The problem is that I do not think you shined more than Jennifer. So why should I vote for you if Jennifer did everything you did, but shining more and being more respectable?
Jennifer Tilly... You are the player of the season. My only problem with you is... I think you are very arrogant. You played very well and is dominated by far every favorite. But I do not like your attitude. You complain about everything all the time. That's my only problem with you. I'm enjoying your new attitude towards the jury, and I almost forgot the way you dealt the hosts and players before that. Congratulations, you played very well. If you win, it will surely be one of the best wins I've seen in orgs. Tell the truth.. Why vote for Gale? We could vote together for Aidan or Leah and destroy the couple.
Leah... you're my biggest problem here. You started this game very well, I made an alliance with you during the tribal phase, it saved me from being a pre-merge boot. I think you fake, deceitful, shameless, selfish and two-faced. But that was the best thing I've seen of you. After the merge started, you lost your whole personality. You turned a useless, no one cared, I saw several days without checking the board. Why? What happened? Where is Leah I met? You're less likely to get my vote, but I'll give you a chance to show the real Leah.
Good Luck!
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Post by J-Tilly on Mar 20, 2013 19:54:08 GMT -5
I've already addressed both of these aspects, but I'll go over them again for you. ^.^
I'm not an arrogant person in the slightest. By definition, arrogance is having and displaying a sense of one's importance and abilities. Not once in this game did I ever say to anyone that I'm more important, smarter, better, or more capable than anyone. In fact, my entire game plan was that the Fans had to go because THEY were more capable of winning and would've gladly handed my vote to any of you Fans. That's the opposite of arrogance. I understand why you may feel this way though, because people often see my personality as being an arrogant one. I'm not though. I'm just passionate about the games I get into & confident in who I am and there's nothing wrong with that.
My overall attitude hasn't changed in any regard either. I'm the same person now that I was during the game. I was kind to those who were kind to me, I was respectful to those who were respectful to me and I've always acknowledged my flaws. The only differences now is that NOW...I have nobody getting in my face, I have nobody being disrespectful and I am more open to verbalize my flaws cause I'm not having to hide any part of my game play.
As for the hosts, I know I was hard on them and at times a little rude when I felt I was being disrespected. As a fellow host, you know your actions could play a factor in how the game is played out. You need to be around to answer questions so your players understand what to do in challenges. You need to actually answer the questions and not copy/paste what was already said, tell them you're not going answer at all or answer a question they never actually asked. You need to post challenges & results on time (or as close as possible) so that people who arranged their plans didn't do so for no reason and so that the gapped time doesn't affect the outcome. If you as a host fail in any of these...you could impact the game itself, which is a HUGE no-no. There are certain standards all hosts should have and I'm sorry, but I feel this season lacked some of these on several occasions. So when you see these flaws as a player, you have the option to either sit back and let things play out and possibly get screwed...or speak up, point out the problem and let the host handle it the best they can. I'm just not the type of person to sit, smile and ignore things...and I'd expect nothing less from those playing in one of MY games. That combination can make it feel like I complained a lot, but that's not what I was doing.
As for why Gale...it was a combination of many things. Lack of communication between Gale & I, me not believing you'd really go for one of them over one of us, Leah's silly threat and me simply not wanting Aidan out because I benefited more in him staying than leaving. I would've gladly voted Leah out, but again...communication & the disbelief of you going after one of them over one of us.
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Post by Tina (Twin 1) on Mar 20, 2013 20:14:23 GMT -5
tilly if u knew me n terri voted 4 sure 4 aidan would u vote with us?
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Post by Tina (Twin 1) on Mar 20, 2013 20:14:51 GMT -5
i mean when gale got voted out xxxxx
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Post by J-Tilly on Mar 20, 2013 21:01:18 GMT -5
tilly if u knew me n terri voted 4 sure 4 aidan would u vote with us? I was not voting Aidan. Had you been willing to vote Leah, then I would've. But not Aidan. I wanted him in my pocket. Had Gale & I been able to actually discuss that vote, I would've worked for that outcome.
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Post by Aidan Keller on Mar 21, 2013 7:04:45 GMT -5
First, congrats Aidan, Jennifer and Leah. You are in the place that I wanted to be... good job. Aidan...I don't think your game was very good, but I need to make some considerations. First, you were our first target at the beginning of the merge and when you realized it you worked with the fans. You made us change our vote for a moment, and got yourself out of our votes. I think you had a big domain under Leah and Jennifer Tilly. You betrayed on Jennifer Tilly and she didn't make you pay back. Well, that's certainly a good social game. The problem is that I do not think you shined more than Jennifer. So why should I vote for you if Jennifer did everything you did, but shining more and being more respectable? Thanks Terri, I agree with what you said, I had the target on my back since the beggining of the merge but I was able to turn this around and not only make you stop target me but in fact join me and vote out who I wanted. I think you should vote for me because in your word Tilly and myself did the same, but I at least work with you for some time, I never disrespect you and the most important I had to fight for my survivor in this game, Tilly had a easy way till the end that why her game was so respectable, I would not be able to play like that or I would not be here now
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Post by J-Tilly on Mar 21, 2013 7:41:53 GMT -5
You and I did NOT do the same. I did 10x more than you did in this game. Without me, you would've been a pre-merge vote. You survived this far because I was saving your ass time and time again. That's just simple truth.
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Post by Aidan Keller on Mar 21, 2013 7:52:47 GMT -5
You and I did NOT do the same. I did 10x more than you did in this game. Without me, you would've been a pre-merge vote. You survived this far because I was saving your ass time and time again. That's just simple truth. but the same goes to you, everyone knew that you were the strongest out there I´m sure I could have voted you off anytime, but I didnt want because we were together and thats why we are here at end together now.
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Post by J-Tilly on Mar 21, 2013 8:32:22 GMT -5
You and I did NOT do the same. I did 10x more than you did in this game. Without me, you would've been a pre-merge vote. You survived this far because I was saving your ass time and time again. That's just simple truth. but the same goes to you, everyone knew that you were the strongest out there I´m sure I could have voted you off anytime, but I didnt want because we were together and thats why we are here at end together now. You NEVER did shit to "save" me in this game. In fact, you didn't do anything that actually CONTRIBUTED to us being here. I did all the work and I was the one that had to pick up the pieces and fix the messes YOU kept making. Being ABLE to do something is not the same as ACTUALLY doing something. You can sit there and say you could have voted me out all you want. Well, we ALL could have done something. It's what we ACTUALLY did that matters. And me? I ACTUALLY saved your skin SEVERAL times in this game.
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Post by Gale Weathers on Mar 21, 2013 8:50:20 GMT -5
Thats a tad ridiculous, you didn't need Aiden around at all.
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Post by J-Tilly on Mar 21, 2013 8:56:39 GMT -5
Thats a tad ridiculous, you didn't need Aiden around at all. Oh I know I didn't need him, but I kept him alive in the game because I knew he was in my pocket.
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Post by Gale Weathers on Mar 21, 2013 9:07:28 GMT -5
Okay but when it came down to me, you still wouldn't vote him out?
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Post by J-Tilly on Mar 21, 2013 9:19:50 GMT -5
Okay but when it came down to me, you still wouldn't vote him out? I would've fought to take Leah out instead of him. Leah made it clear she didn't give 2 shits about anyone's game, including her own.
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Post by Tina (Twin 1) on Mar 21, 2013 10:02:04 GMT -5
let s just change a little coz i need this info but c what i mean: at a final 4 with u, gale, aidan, leah. leah wins immunity. would u still vote 4 gale? xxxxxxx
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Post by J-Tilly on Mar 21, 2013 10:27:23 GMT -5
let s just change a little coz i need this info but c what i mean: at a final 4 with u, gale, aidan, leah. leah wins immunity. would u still vote 4 gale? xxxxxxx Yes. As much as I adore Gale and would LOVE to have her sitting next to me, coming to her defense would've only made MY game harder. The best it would've done would allow Gale & Aidan to tie it up. If Aidan would win the tie, I'd then be fucked in any surprise F3 challenge cause he'd no longer be in my pocket. If Aidan lost the tie, he'd go to Jury with no chance of him voting me to win and now sitting next to Gale, who I'd already have one hell of a fight against as a finalist. I would gain nothing in forcing that tie.
Keep in mind though, that would require Leah to win the challenge. Yes, she won the actual F4 challenge...but I spent 3 days getting a fire under her ass, convinced the host to move the challenge to a more suitable time (it was originally going to be the previous day, when she wouldn't be online) and TBH I didn't even attempt to win that challenge. If I wanted to win, I would've given it every last drop of my energy to do so...and in that scenario, I WOULD have given every last drop to ensure that win so we could've safely forced the tie onto Leah.
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